Ask ScooterDad - Volume 2

Ask ScooterDad - Volume 2

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I'm back with more answers to your questions with Volume 2 of Ask ScooterDad. If you missed the first volume, you can find it here: Ask ScooterDad - Volume 1.

If you have any questions or topics you'd like me to cover, just let me know. Send me an email at kenny@scooterdad.com, post on Facebook at http://www.facebook.com/ScooterDadBlog, or message me on Twitter at http://twitter.com/ScooterDadBlog. Look for more installments to come!

Why are metal core (metalcore) scooter wheels better than plastic scooter wheels?

Plastic core scooter wheels are great for beginners because they are cheap and they come on most beginner scooters. Unfortunately, as you improve, you will quickly discover that they can't stand up to the punishment of freestyle scootering. Once you can land a tailwhip or jump more than a foot or two, it's time to invest in some metal core wheels. You can start inexpensive with some Yak Scat wheels (available in many colors, but I think the purple ones are really cool) or you can go all the way up to the best wheels on the market, Phoenix Pro Scooters Integra 110mm (also available in multiple colors, but I like orange).

How can I stop a Razor scooter brake from rattling?

You can replace the brake spring with a more heavy duty spring, but they can be difficult to find. Your best bet is remove the stock brake and install a Phoenix Pro Scooters Switchblade brake. Look for an upcoming article on how to install these on a Razor Ultra Pro deck

What are scooters made of?

Nearly all scooter decks are made of aluminum. The bars are steel or aluminum (I recommend steel). The clamps can made of steel or aluminum. The brakes can be aluminum, steel, or spring steel. Scooter wheels are made of various compounds of urethane (plastic) and the cores are aluminum or plastic. Forks can be made of steel or aluminum.

When I buy scooter wheels, will they come with bearings?

For the most part, no. Scooter wheels and bearings are sold separately. You may find a couple exceptions, but the rule is that bearings are not included with wheels...except for the awesome wheels made by Phoenix Pro Scooters which come with bearings pre-installed!

Why do I want a "dialed" scooter?

As described in the Scooter Lingo - Volume 1 article, a scooter is "dialed" if it doesn't rattle. That means that all of the parts are fitting snug and secure. To a certain degree, it's a mental thing. That is, if you can hear and feel your scooter rattling, the less confident you will be in its abilities to support you in the tricks you are trying to do. There is a physical aspect, however. If a scooter isn't solidly built, the energy you put into riding will be expended through the rattles and gaps in the parts resulting in a less efficient ride.

Where does a headset go on a scooter?

The headset is the collection of bearings and fittings that allow the fork to spin freely within the headtube of the deck. The headset is comprised of several parts and they are a set of rings, fittings, bearings, and cups located at the top and bottom of the deck's headtube.

Why do I need bar ends (barends) for scooters?

Bar ends on a scooter are important for the same reason that they are important on a bike: your handle bars are essentially a hollow pipe without bar ends. Do you know what else is a hollow pipe? A needle! Your handle bars, without bar ends, can act like a GIANT needle. That's a bit of an exaggeration, but the point is real. If your body comes down on the end of your handlebars without bar ends, that hollow metal end can do some real damage to you, so always make sure you have good bar ends. If you need new bar ends, you probably need new grips too, and grips usually come with bar ends. If not, you can probably find cheap replacement bar ends at a bike shop.

Can I take scooters to skate parks?

I wish I could say, "YES! By all means, take your scooters and ride any skate park you can find!", but the sad reality is that some parks don't allow scooters. Hopefully that will change some day, but in the meantime, check the posted rules at skate parks or call ahead if it's a managed park and make sure that it's okay to bring your scooter. As much as we would love to see scooters at all parks, these things take time to change, so don't ride parks that don't allow scooters. You will do more damage to the sport by being a jerk and not following the rules. Politely write letters or talk to the people about changing the rules, but don't make us all look bad by choosing to ignore the rules. Be respectful.

Do I need to use two bolts on a Phoenix Switchblade?

On most decks non-Phoenix, you do need to use both bolts to prevent the brake from slipping side to side and rotating away from perfect alignment. The internal channel in the Phoenix scooters are designed in such a way that the "legs" of the Switchblade hold it in place and keep it from rotating, but other scooter decks aren't necessarily built like that, so you probably need to use both bolts.

What parts are needed to use a Standard Compression System (SCS) on my scooter?

This is a much bigger discussion about compression and all the parts needed for which setups, but the short answer is this: you need a threadless fork, a threadless headset, and bars that do NOT have a slit cut in them. Typically, your SCS will add 2 inches to the overall height of your bars, so you can easily cut 2 inches off to remove the slit. Some SCS clamps allow for standard size bars with a shim OR oversized bars without the shim, so make sure that you check to see what kind of bars your SCS clamp will accommodate.

Will a threadless headset work on a stock threaded fork?

You can make it work...sorta...kinda, but it's a hacky way of building a scooter and you're better off just taking the leap and upgrading to a threadless headset and fork at the same time, plus whatever clamp/compression and bar parts you will need to make it all work together. I do not recommend trying to make a threaded fork work with a threadless headset, even though I have done that for someone.

Do I need to grease wheel bearings on a freestyle scooter?

Yes and no. Putting a little machine grease on out outside of the bearing can help them slip easier into metal core wheels. As far as the inside of the bearings with regard to spin, I do not recommend grease. You should use Bones Speed Cream if you feel like you need to lubricate your bearings. You can buy Bones Speed Cream through Inward Scooters or at a local skate shop and it's worth the money.

Where did the scooter store in Skatebarn in Renton, WA move to?

Mothership Distribution / ScootAndDestroy.com has moved to a store in Everett, WA at 7529 Beverly Blvd #2, Everett, WA 98203. I've heard rumors that they may move back into Skatebarn at some point, which would be great!

What is the difference between an integrated headset and a non-integrated headset?

The headset itself, for the most part, is the same in both models. What this really refers to is the way that the bearing cups (the channels that contain the headset bearings) attach to the scooter. In a non-integrated headset, bearing cups have to be pressed (or hammered!) into the headetube of the deck. In an integrated headset, the bearing cups are machined into the headtube of the deck as one piece. That is, it's more about buying an integrated deck than an integrated headset. I really wish all scooters would come with integrated bearing cups because installing and removing bearing cups is one of the most difficult things to do in scooter maintenance.

What do I need to know about freestyle scooters and scootering?

There are lots of things you need to learn! But thankfully, you're in just the right place. Keep checking back here at ScooterDad for new articles and videos for everything you need to know about getting into the sport of freestyle scootering. Also, be sure to check out our sponsors that advertise on the site as they help make all of this possible. :o)


Comments

do i have to cut 2 inches off my bars and not replace the slit for blazer scs.

By felix (not verified)

I don't know anything about the Blazer brand/model specifically, but in general, yes, that is how SCS works. You either need bars without a slit, or you need to cut the last 2 inches off your bars to remove the slit.

By Kenny

Hi, my mate told me I cut put a shim inside my mgp batwings so I don't have to cut the slit off will this work or not ?

By Joshua durrant (not verified)

I think you're referring to not wanting to cut the slit off some standard sized bars for use with an SCS clamp. If you can find some kind of internal shim that is solid that will fit snugly inside the bars, then yes, you could use that to prevent compression of the slit. The problem is that you might not ever get that shim back out of your bars if it's tight enough.

By Kenny

Does a Razor Ultra Pro Lo work with a Blunt Battle Fully Sealed Headset?

By Joseph (not verified)

Yes, although you'll need to remove the stock bearing cups and install the new bearing cups that come with your Blunt headset. This can be very difficult. I recommend you take your deck and bearing cups to a bike shop and have them install the cups for you.

By Kenny

Thanks, I didn't want to waste my money on something that wouldn't work.

BTW, Would that make my scooter dialed? My scooter rattles when it rides on sidewalks.

By Joseph (not verified)

Not necessarily. There's a lot that goes into dialing a scooter. It's not just one fix: headset, compression, axles, brake, bearings/spacers, clamp, etc.

By the way, the only headset I recommend is the FSA Pig DH Pro Sealed. It's more expensive, but it's the best. I won't buy any others: http://www.scooterdad.com/article/ask-scooterdad-volume-2

By Kenny

so would this set up work? - blunt AOS V2 deck with blunt intergrated headset and just some threadless forks with none slit bars? what clamp would I need?

By katie (not verified)

Hey Katie,

If you want to run an AOS2 with threadless forks and bars without a slit, you'll need to make sure that the bars are standard sized (not oversized) and you'll need an SCS compression system. I recommend the Phoenix Smooth SCS. It works great and it's light. Good luck!

By Kenny

My front wheel sounds as if it's grinding when I put weight on it. I replaced the bearings recently so I wasn't sure if it was that or not. (also, I bought new nylon wheels, and the back wheel melted itself to the bearing on one side, and practically fused itself stiff, im guessing this is where the benefit of metal cores comes in?)

By Sean (not verified)

Freestyle scooter riders use metal core wheels because of the strength and stability they offer. Grinding sounds in the wheels is almost always bearings or spacers. If you're doing freestyle tricks, you'll want to upgrade to metal core wheels as soon as you can.

By Kenny

Does a blunt envy flex brake fit on a razor ultra pro deck?

By eli (not verified)

It might fit, but I wouldn't try it for 2 reasons:

  1. Envy brakes are very flimsy and break easily. You should replace it with a Phoenix Switchblade instead of an Envy brake. Check out the article and video I did on installing a Switchblade on non-Phoenix decks.
     
  2. Envy brakes have a brake carrier with integrated wheel spacers. If the integrated spacer isn't identical to what your Ultra Pro requires, your wheel won't fit properly. ...but even if it does fit, it's still not a good brake, as I mentioned in point #1.
By Kenny

can you putt eny typ of forks on eny typ of scooter deck

By elijah (not verified)

Yes and no. The type of fork you use depends on your headset, compression/clamp, and bars. They all have to compatible to work together.

By Kenny

Hey I was just mucking around with my scooter and put rubber underneath my break and I thought what if I put some under my apex scs so I did and it sounds a lot better will it do any damage to my scs

By Josh (not verified)

If it's just a tiny bit, then you should be okay, but if it's thick, it will raise your bars too high in the clamp causing too much leverage to be exerted on the SCS and it might break.

By Kenny

I just bought these new Phoenix integra 110 wheels. Are the bearings removable? I want to know before I go pounding away, trying to get the bearings out.

By alan (not verified)

Yes, all pro scooter bearings in wheels are removable. You can use this technique to remove them: http://www.scooterdad.com/article/removing-bearings-from-metal-core-wheels

Removing bearings usually damages them, so plan to replace them with new bearings, but save the bearing spacers.

By Kenny

do u prefer a intergraded on a standared deack and wat do you need for a intergraded deack parts wise

By tyler (not verified)

No question, I prefer an integrated deck. To use an integrated deck, you need a threadless fork, threadless integrated headset, and some kind of compression (SCS, HIC, etc.) and compatible bars.

By Kenny

can grit invader bars be threaded if the slit is cut off?

By george ashton (not verified)

Bars to not have threads. Some bars have a textured inner wall to help grip threads, but they aren't threaded. If you cut the slit off your bars, you can't use them on a threaded fork without cutting a new slit.

By Kenny

what kind of grease / lubricant do I need to use for my Eagle wheels and district bearings?

By Quincey (not verified)

Bones Speed Cream is the only bearing lubricant that I've used and it seems to work well.

By Kenny

Can I use one piece bars with an affix intergrated bar clamp system

By marko (not verified)

The Affix integrated bar clamp system appears to be the top crossbar clamping mechanism on the Madd Gear Pro Model. By definition, one-piece bars are welded solid, so that Affix system wouldn't apply to one-piece bars.

By Kenny

Is there any difference between threaded/threadless bars?

By velss (not verified)

Generally speaking, there is no such thing as threaded bars (there might be some bars with threads, but that's not the standard). Threaded forks typically require standard bars with a slit cut in them, similar to ICS or IHC setups.

By Kenny

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